by Calculated Risk on 3/17/2009 09:21:00 PM

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In my previous post I discussed the question: Housing Starts: Is this the bottom?

We don't know the answer yet.

But some readers are confusing a bottom in housing starts with a bottom in pricing. It doesn't works that way!

There will be two distinct bottoms for housing:

1) First single-family housing starts and new home sales will bottom.

and then followed some time later ...

2) Prices for existing homes will bottom.

Just about every housing bust follows this pattern. The bottom in prices could be a year, or two, or more away. It is way too early to try to call the bottom in prices. House prices will almost certainly fall all year and probably next year too. Prices will continue to fall. Prices are not at the bottom.

Sorry for repeating myself.

Also, it is theoretically possible that single-family housing starts (off 80% from peak) and new home sales (off 78% from peak) could go to zero - but unlikely. Sometime this year housing starts and new home sales will probably bottom, but that doesn't indicate a bottom for house prices.

by Calculated Risk on 3/17/2009 04:25:00 PM

Update: Please don't confuse a bottom in single family housing starts with a bottom in house prices! See next post: Housing: Two Bottoms.

The title to this post would have been laughable in 2008 or 2007, but as I noted in Looking for the Sun, there is a reasonable chance housing starts will bottom sometime this year - so I suppose it is not too early to start looking.

A few key points:

Single-family starts may still fall further. Although I've started looking for the bottom for housing starts, this seems a little early in the year.

Focus on single-family starts. Ignore total housing starts. Multi-family starts are very volatile. Single family starts increased by 1.1% in February - not much.

One month does not make a trend, and housing data is revised significantly. The slight increase in February might just disappear.

Permits for single-family housing units jumped to 373,000 SAAR (starts were 357,000 in February). This suggests starts will probably be higher in March.

Supply is still too high. Months of supply was at an all time record high 13.3 months in January.

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From the Census Bureau: "The seasonally adjusted estimate of new houses for sale at the end of January was 342,000. This represents a supply of 13.3 months at the current sales rate."

But the increase in Months of Supply has been driven by the denominator (sales), even though the numerator (inventory) has been falling steadily. note: Months of supply = inventory / sales.

The second graph shows the level of hard inventory for new homes (completed plus under construction). With starts below sales, hard inventory has been falling for some time.

Unless sales fall further, the months of supply should start to decline even with the current level of starts.

And this brings up a key point:

It is incorrect to directly compare monthly housing starts to monthly new home sales. The monthly housing starts report from the Census Bureau includes apartments, owner built units and condos that are not included in the new home sales report.

However it is possible to compare "Single Family Starts, Built for Sale" to New Home sales on a quarterly basis. The quarterly report shows there were 65,000 single family starts, built for sale, in Q4 2008 and that is less than the 82,000 new homes sold for the same period. This data is Not Seasonally Adjusted (NSA). This suggests homebuilders were selling more homes than they are starting – but not by much.

However starts have fallen much further in Q1 (almost 25% from Q4) although sales have fallen too (we only have January data for sales so far).

Note: new home sales are reported when contracts are signed, so it is appropriate to compare sales to starts (as opposed to completions), although this isn’t perfect because homebuilders have recently been stuck with “unintentional spec homes” because of the high cancellation rates.

This graph provides a quarterly comparison of housing starts and new home sales. In 2005, and most of 2006, starts were higher than sales, and inventories of new homes rose sharply. For the last several quarters, starts have been below sales – and new home inventories have been falling - but it continues to be a race to the bottom between starts and sales.

Of course, unless sales stabilize soon, starts might have to fall further.

The housing market is still very weak. The NAHB homebuilder index was near the record low this month. Housing starts are just off the record lows of last month. New home sales were at a record low in January. And sales and starts are nominal numbers - not adjusted for changes in population!

Do not expect a sharp rebound in housing starts. Even if this is the bottom in starts (or close to the bottom), there is still too much inventory - especially distressed existing home inventory - for a meaningful rebound in housing starts.

Impact on the economy: If this is near the bottom for housing starts, then the drag on GDP from Residential Investment (RI) will subside (new construction is usually the largest component of RI). As completions fall to the level of starts, the drag on residential construction employment will also ease. And finally, in the temporal order of a business cycle recovery, usually RI has to bottom first ...

by Calculated Risk on 3/17/2009 04:12:00 PM

Another up day with the NASDAQ up over 4%, and the S&P up 3.2%. The S&P 500 is now up 15% from the closing lows. Here are a couple of graphs:

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The first graph is from Doug Short of dshort.com (financial planner): "Four Bad Bears".

Note that the Great Depression crash is based on the DOW; the three others are for the S&P 500.

The second graph shows the S&P 500 since 1990.




The dashed line is the closing price today.

This puts the 15% rally into perspective - the S&P is still off more than 50% from the 2007 high.

by Calculated Risk on 3/17/2009 03:40:00 PM

From Reuters: Thornburg Mortgage may file Chapter 11 bankruptcy

Thornburg Mortgage ... a large and troubled provider of "jumbo" mortgage loans, on Tuesday said it may file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.
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A bankruptcy filing would make Thornburg one of the largest U.S. mortgage providers to seek protection from creditors since the housing slump began ...

Thornburg has specialized in making mortgages larger than $417,000 to borrowers with good credit ...

Last March, Thornburg arranged a $1.35 billion bailout from the distressed debt investor MatlinPatterson Global Advisors LLC and other investors to stay out of bankruptcy.

According to a Tuesday regulatory filing, MatlinPatterson surrendered all of its Thornburg common stock -- 120.8 million shares -- on March 12 and 16 without any compensation. ...

We're all subprime now!

by Calculated Risk on 3/17/2009 01:18:00 PM

Note: I ignore the median price data because it is skewed by the mix of homes sold. A repeat sales index like Case-Shiller is a better indicator of price changes.

From DataQuick: Southland home sales outpace last year again; median price steady

Southland home sales stayed above year-ago levels for the eighth consecutive month in February ... Market activity was dominated by bargain-hunting in affordable neighborhoods while buying and selling in more expensive established areas remained largely on hold ...

A total of 15,231 new and resale homes sold in Los Angeles, Riverside, San Diego, Ventura, San Bernardino and Orange counties last month. That was essentially unchanged from 15,227 for January, and up 41.3 percent from 10,777 for February 2008, according to MDA DataQuick of San Diego.
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Regionwide, foreclosure resales accounted for 56.4 percent of February’s resales activity, which was the same as the revised January figure and up from 36.2 percent in February 2008.

Sales are up because of foreclosure resales in less expensive neighborhoods. Meanwhile, sales in "more expensive established areas" have slowed to a trickle. This build up in supply will eventually lead to more price declines in the expensive areas ...

by Calculated Risk on 3/17/2009 10:58:00 AM

Here is a quick look at a few credit indicators:

First, the British Bankers' Association reported that the three-month dollar Libor rates were fixed at 1.30%, down from 1.31% on Monday. This has been a slight improvement over the last week.

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The first graph shows the spread between 30 year Moody's Aaa and Baa rated bonds and the 30 year treasury.

There has been some increase in the spread the last few weeks, but the spread is still way below the recent peak. The spreads are still very high, even for higher rated paper, but especially for lower rated paper.

The Moody's data is from the St. Louis Fed:

Moody's tries to include bonds with remaining maturities as close as possible to 30 years. Moody's drops bonds if the remaining life falls below 20 years, if the bond is susceptible to redemption, or if the rating changes.

There has been improvement in the A2P2 spread. This has declined to 0.84. This is far below the record (for this cycle) of 5.86 after Thanksgiving, but still above the normal spread.

This is the spread between high and low quality 30 day nonfinancial commercial paper.

Meanwhile the TED spread has decreased a little over the last week, and is now at 107.5. This is the difference between the interbank rate for three month loans and the three month Treasury. The peak was 463 on Oct 10th and a normal spread is around 50 bps.

This graph shows the at the Merrill Lynch Corporate Master Index OAS (Option adjusted spread) for the last 2 years.

This is a broad index of investment grade corporate debt:

The Merrill Lynch US Corporate Index tracks the performance of US dollar denominated investment grade corporate debt publicly issued in the US domestic market.

The recent surge in this index was a cause for alarm, but the index appears to have stabilized over the last week.

All of these indicators are still too high, but at least none of them are increasing this week.

by Calculated Risk on 3/17/2009 08:30:00 AM

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Total housing starts were at 583 thousand (SAAR) in February, well off the record low of 477 thousand in January (the lowest level since the Census Bureau began tracking housing starts in 1959).

Single-family starts were at 357 thousand in February; just above the record low in January (353 thousand).

Permits for single-family units increased in February to 373 thousand, suggesting single-family starts could increase in March.

Here is the Census Bureau report on housing Permits, Starts and Completions.

Building permits increased slightly:

Privately-owned housing units authorized by building permits in February were at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 547,000. This is 3.0 percent (±3.5%)* above the revised January rate of 531,000, but is 44.2 percent (±1.2%) below the revised February 2008 estimate of 981,000.

Single-family authorizations in February were at a rate of 373,000; this is 11.0 percent (±2.1%) above the January figure of 336,000.

On housing starts:

Privately-owned housing starts in February were at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 583,000. This is 22.2 percent (±13.8%) above the revised January estimate of 477,000, but is 47.3 percent (±5.3%) below the revised February2008 rate of 1,107,000.

Single-family housing starts in February were at a rate of 357,000; this is 1.1 percent (±11.0%)* above the January figure of 353,000.

And on completions:

Privately-owned housing completions in February were at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 785,000. This is 2.3 percent (±14.8%)* above the revised January estimate of 767,000, but is 37.3 percent (±7.7%) below the revised February 2008 rate of 1,251,000.

Single-family housing completions in February were at a rate of 505,000; this is 8.2 percent (±11.8%)* below the January figure of 550,000.

Note that single-family completions are still significantly higher than single-family starts. This is important because residential construction employment tends to follow completions, and completions will probably decline further.

One month does not make a trend - and the graph shows this is just a slight increase in total starts (and single family starts are basically flat with the record low). However I do expect housing starts to bottom sometime in 2009.

by Calculated Risk on 3/16/2009 09:58:00 PM

From the WSJ: Obama Seeks to Avoid Auto Bankruptcies

The leaders of President Barack Obama's auto task force are focused on restructuring General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC outside of bankruptcy court ...
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"It sometimes becomes a necessary place for some companies, but it's certainly not a desired place and it is certainly not our goal to see these companies in bankruptcy, particularly considering the consumer-facing nature of their businesses," [Steven Rattner, a private-equity executive leading the team] said in an interview.
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By the end of the month, the government plans to lay out its view on the companies' viability and what the industry should look like in future years, Mr. Rattner said.

Meanwhile: Chrysler Presses Request for Loans. Just another $5 billion by the end of the month ...

by Calculated Risk on 3/16/2009 07:56:00 PM

From Reuters: U.S. credit card defaults rise to 20 year-high

U.S. credit card defaults rose in February to their highest level in at least 20 years, with losses particularly severe at American Express ... and Citigroup ...

AmEx ... said its net charge-off rate ... rose to 8.70 percent in February from 8.30 percent in January.

... Citigroup Inc (C.N) ... default rate soared to 9.33 percent in February, from 6.95 percent a month earlier ...
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Chase ... reported its charge-off rate rose to 6.35 percent in February from 5.94 percent in January. ...

Capital One Financial Corp's ... default rate increased to 8.06 percent in February from 7.82 percent in January.
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Analysts estimate credit card chargeoffs could climb to between 9 and 10 percent this year from 6 to 7 percent at the end of 2008.

The Treasury and Federal Reserve haven't publicly released the indicative loss rates for various asset classes associated with the two stress test economic scenarios (baseline and more adverse), but these numbers are probably approaching the "more adverse" scenario range for credit cards.

by Calculated Risk on 3/16/2009 06:06:00 PM

Here is a comparison of the National Association of Home Builders (NAHB) Housing Market Index and new home sales from the Census Bureau. Since new home sales are released with a lag, the NAHB index provides a possible leading indicator for sales.

Note: the NAHB index released this morning was for a March survey. New Home sales for February will be released on March 25th - so the NAHB is released almost 6 weeks ahead of the corresponding sales numbers.

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This shows that major tops and bottoms (green arrows) for the two series line up pretty well (usually within 1 month). However both series are noisy month to month, and there are plenty of head fakes in between the significant peaks and troughs. Also the new home sales data is revised significantly (this graph uses revised data).

Just something to watch going forward ...

by Calculated Risk on 3/16/2009 03:46:00 PM

From Bloomberg: FASB Moves Toward Giving Banks More Flexibility on Fair-Value (ht Justin)

The Financial Accounting Standards Board, pressured by lawmakers to change the fair-value rule blamed for worsening the financial crisis, proposed permitting companies to use “significant judgment” in valuing assets.

Companies would be able to apply the revised rule to their first-quarter financial statements, FASB Chairman Robert Herz said today during a meeting at the U.S. accounting rulemaker’s Norwalk, Connecticut, headquarters. The board is set to vote on the proposal April 2, after a 15-day public comment period. ...

From the American Bankers Association: Breaking News: FASB to Propose Improvements to Mark-to-Market, OTTI

Mark-to-Market. The proposal for estimating market values will take into consideration whether there is an active market (such as the number of recent transactions, whether price quotes are based on current information, whether price quotes vary substantially, etc.). If there is not an active market, then the quoted price is a distressed transaction unless certain other conditions exist. For distressed transaction prices, “Level 3” techniques (such as present values of future cash flows) are used instead of the distressed prices and should reflect an orderly transaction between market participants, including a reasonable profit margin for uncertainty in a non-distressed situation.

Other-Than-Temporary-Impairment. FASB will also propose that the full market loss continue to be reported through earnings (and capital) only if the entity intends to sell or will be required to sell the security prior to its recovery. For all other OTTI, the amount of market loss will be split between the credit portion of the loss, which will be reported in earnings, and the remainder of the loss, which will be reported in “other comprehensive income.”

by Calculated Risk on 3/16/2009 03:21:00 PM

Update: Housing Wire has more: Mortgage Fraud at All-Time High: Report

This report appears to deal with Fraud for Housing, and not Fraud for Profit (what most people think of as mortgage fraud).

From Dina ElBoghdady at the WaPo: Mortgage Fraud Rises Even as Loans Decline

Mortgage fraud rose last year even though fewer loans were issued nationwide ... Fraud jumped by 26 percent in 2008 from the previous year, the study concluded, based on data collected from roughly 70 percent of the nation's lenders as well as mortgage insurance companies and mortgage investors. The study was prepared by the Mortgage Asset Research Institute, an arm of LexisNexis, for the Mortgage Bankers Association.
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"With fewer loan originations today, the data suggest that the economic downturn may have created more desperation, causing more people than ever before to try to commit mortgage fraud," said Denise James, one of the study's authors.

The most common type of fraud continues to be application misrepresentation, which includes falsifying a borrower's income. That kind of fraud represented about 61 percent of all the reported cases last year, followed by fraud on tax returns and financial statements. The volume of reported fraud related to credit reports dropped from 9 percent to 4 percent in the past year.
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The study noted that the spike in fraudulent activity cases can be partially attributed to more vigorous reporting and investigations.

Historically there have been two types of mortgage fraud: fraud for housing, and fraud for profit. The MBA/MARI report focuses on fraud for housing (and that probably includes refinance fraud because borrowers are desperate).

Tanta explained this well: Unwinding the Fraud for Bubbles

There is a tradition in the mortgage business of distinguishing between two major types of mortgage fraud, called “Fraud for Housing” and “Fraud for Profit.” The former is the borrower-initiated fraud—inflating income or assets, lying about employment, etc.—that is motivated by the borrower’s desire to get housing (not the same thing as “real estate”), by means of getting a loan he or she doesn’t actually qualify for. It may require some collusion by the loan originator or appraiser, but it may not. It is usually the least expensive kind of fraud to lenders and investors, since the goal is getting (and keeping) the property, so the borrower is at least usually motivated to make the payments. The problems come about, of course, because these borrowers failed to qualify honestly for a reason. Borrower-initiated fraud loans may be considered “self-underwritten,” and such loans do have a much higher failure rate than the “lender-underwritten” ones. Their only saving grace is that the lender tends to recover more in a foreclosure than in a fraud for profit case. Penalties to the borrower rarely ever come in the form of prosecution; losing the home and becoming a subprime borrower for the next four to seven years—with the credit costs that implies—are the borrower's punishment.

Fraud for profit is simply someone trying to extract cash—not housing—out of the transaction somewhere. If it is borrower-initiated fraud, it’s not a borrower who wants a house; it’s a borrower who wants to flip a piece of real estate or launder money or in some other way grab the cash and leave the lender holding the bag. Most of it, however, is initiated by a seller, real estate broker, lender, or closing agent (or all of them in collusion). It generally requires additional collusion by bribable appraisers, although it can certainly be initiated by a corrupt appraiser looking for a kickback, or can merely take advantage of a trainee or gullible appraiser. This is the flip scam, straw borrower, equity skimming, misappropriation of payoff funds, identity theft kind of fraud. It may not be as common as fraud for housing, at least in some markets, but it’s much, much more expensive to the bagholder. At minimum, the fraud-for-housing borrower wants to take clear, merchantable title to the property and maintain it at an acceptable level. That’s either unnecessary expense or (in the case of title) a hurdle to be gotten over by the fraud-for-profit participant.

As Tanta noted, during the housing bubble, these two frauds merged, and that is probably not happening now. I suspect most of the fraud today is "fraud for housing" by homeowners desperate to refinance.

by Calculated Risk on 3/16/2009 01:00:00 PM

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This graph shows the builder confidence index from the National Association of Home Builders (NAHB).

The housing market index (HMI) was flat at 9 in March (same as February). The record low was 8 set in January.

This is the fifth month in a row at either 8 or 9.

Note: any number under 50 indicates that more builders view sales conditions as poor than good.

Press release from the NAHB: Builder Sentiment Unchanged In March

Builder confidence in the market for newly built single-family homes remained unchanged in March as economic woes continued to take their toll on potential buyers, according to the latest National Association of Home Builders/Wells Fargo Housing Market Index (HMI), released today. The HMI held steady at 9 in March, marking a fifth consecutive month of single-digit readings.

“Home builders are hopeful that the recent economic stimulus package, and particularly the first-time home buyer tax credit that it included, will have a positive impact on consumer behavior and home sales as the prime home buying season gets underway,” said NAHB Chairman Joe Robson, a home builder from Tulsa, Okla. “But it’s still too soon to tell how much of an impact that will be, especially as builders find potential buyers are reluctant because of uncertainty about their future job security and the overall economic outlook.”

“The economy continues to be the main drag on home sales activity right now, in terms of consumer confidence across most of the country,” acknowledged NAHB Chief Economist David Crowe. “What’s more, home builders report that tight credit conditions are posing a further hurdle, especially for potential first-time buyers, while potential trade-up buyers are finding it very tough to sell their existing homes so they can make a move.”

Derived from a monthly survey that NAHB has been conducting for more than 20 years, the NAHB/Wells Fargo HMI gauges builder perceptions of current single-family home sales and sales expectations for the next six months as “good,” “fair” or “poor.” The survey also asks builders to rate traffic of prospective buyers as “high to very high,” “average” or “low to very low.” Scores for each component are then used to calculate a seasonally adjusted index where any number over 50 indicates that more builders view conditions as good than poor.

Two out of three of the HMI’s component indexes were unchanged in March, with the index gauging current sales conditions holding at 7 and the index gauging sales expectations in the next six months holding at a record-low 15. Meanwhile, the index gauging traffic of prospective buyers declined two points to 9.

Three out of four regions saw no change in their HMI reading in March. The Midwest, South and West each held at near-record lows of 8, 12, and 5, respectively. The Northeast rose a single point from a record low of 8 in February to 9 in March.

by Calculated Risk on 3/16/2009 09:22:00 AM

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The Federal Reserve reported that industrial production fell 1.4% in February, and output in February was 11.2% below February 2008. The capacity utilization rate for total industry fell to 70.9%, matching the historical low set in December 1982.

This is a very sharp decline in industrial output. Industrial production is a key to the depth of the economic slowdown. Up until late last Summer the decline in industrial production had been mild. Now, with the global economy slowing sharply, industrial production and capacity utilization are falling off a cliff.

The significant decline in capacity utilization suggests less investment in non-residential structures for some time.

by Calculated Risk on 3/16/2009 09:15:00 AM

From the NY Fed: Empire State Manufacturing Survey

The Empire State Manufacturing Survey indicates that conditions for New York manufacturers deteriorated significantly in March. The general business conditions index fell to a fresh low of -38.2. The new orders and shipments indexes also dropped sharply to new record lows, and the inventories index declined to its lowest level since 2001. The indexes for both prices paid and prices received remained negative for a fourth consecutive month. Employment indexes remained close to their recent lows. Future indexes were somewhat higher than in February, but the six-month outlook continued to be very subdued, with capital spending and technology spending indexes falling to record lows.

More record lows ...

Here is the general business conditions index. Note that the data only goes back to July 2001 (chart to Jan 2002), so all these record lows aren't that significant.

by Calculated Risk on 3/15/2009 11:59:00 PM

AIG released (pdf) a list of counterparties.

Bernanke was on 60 Minutes.

Hamilton asked "What will recovery look like?"

And CNBC reported Obama Plan for Bad Bank Assets Could Come This Week

Just another Sunday ... here is an open thread, a few sources for futures and the foreign markets.

Bloomberg Futures.

CBOT mini-sized Dow

CME Globex Flash Quotes

Futures from barchart.com

And the Asian markets.

And a graph of the Asian markets.

Best to all.

by Calculated Risk on 3/15/2009 08:53:00 PM

AIG released a list of Counterparties to CDS, GIA and Securities Lending Transactions (PDF) (ht David)

And from the Financial Times: AIG publishes counterparty list (ht Dwight)

AIG caved in to political pressure Sunday and released a list of some of the financial counterparties that benefited from its $160bn US government rescue, including some of Europe’s largest banks.
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IG paid out $22.4bn of collateral related to credit default swaps, $27.1bn to help cancel swaps and another $43.7bn to satisfy the obligations of its securities lending operation. The payments were made between September 16 and the end of last year.

Goldman Sachs, which has also accepted US government support, received payments worth $12.9bn. Three European banks – France’s Société Générale, Germany’s Deutsche Bank and the UK’s Barclays – were paid the next-largest amounts. SocGen received $11.9bn; Deutsche $11.8bn; and Barclays $7.9bn.

by Calculated Risk on 3/15/2009 07:48:00 PM

Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke was interviewed on 60 Minutes tonight.

Here is a picture of Bernanke from his college days ... his forecasting skills weren't much better then (Ok, slightly edited!)

From CBS 60 Minutes: Ben Bernanke's Greatest Challenge

"Mr. Chairman, I'm gonna start with a question that everyone wants me to ask: when does this end?" 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley asked Bernanke.

"It depends a lot on the financial system," he replied. "The lesson of history is that you do not get a sustained economic recovery as long as the financial system is in crisis. We've seen some progress in the financial markets, absolutely. But until we get that stabilized and working normally, we're not gonna see recovery. But we do have a plan. We're working on it. And I do think that we will get it stabilized, and we'll see the recession coming to an end probably this year. We'll see recovery beginning next year. And it will pick up steam over time."

The transcript is available at 60 minutes.

Here is the interview:

by Calculated Risk on 3/15/2009 06:10:00 PM

Professor Hamilton provides a number of graphs on the temporal order of a recovery: What will recovery look like?

This adds to my post: Business Cycle: Temporal Order

Here is the table I provided of a simplified temporal order for emerging from a recession. The table shows when each area typically starts to recovery relative to the end of the recession.

During Recession	Lags End of Recession	Significantly Lags End of Recession
Residential Investment	Investment, Equipment & Software	Investment, non-residential Structures
PCE	Unemployment(1)

And this graph from Professor Hamilton shows the average pattern for all the recessions since 1947.

Credit: Professor Hamilton Econbrowser

Average cumulative change in 100 times the natural log of real GDP or its respective component beginning from the business cycle peak for the 10 recessions between 1947 and 2001. Horizontal axis denotes quarters after the peak.

And here is what the current recession looks like. The record slump in RI has changed the scale of the graph, but the order appears the same.

Credit: Professor Hamilton Econbrowser

Cumulative change in 100 times the natural log of real GDP or its respective component beginning in 2007:Q4. Horizontal axis denotes quarters after 2007:Q4.

For recovery, we know what to watch: Residential Investment (RI) and PCE. The increasingly severe slump in CRE / non-residential investment in structures will be interesting, but that is a lagging indicator for the economy.

Unfortunately there are reasons that RI (excess supply) and PCE (too much debt) won't rebound quickly, but they are still the areas to watch.

And here is an excerpt from a research note by Jan Hatzius, Chief Economist at Goldman Sachs, sent out this afternoon:

"Although we still think real GDP will fall by about 7% annualized in Q1 and the labor market numbers remain awful, the good news is that the weakness is shifting from more leading to more lagging sectors."

(1) In recent recessions, unemployment significantly lagged the end of the recession. That is very likely this time too.

by Calculated Risk on 3/15/2009 12:18:00 PM

Here is another area of domestic non-residential investment that will slump in 2009.

From the NY Times: As Oil and Gas Prices Plunge, Drilling Frenzy Ends

The great American drilling boom is over.

The number of oil and gas rigs deployed to tap new energy supplies across the country has plunged to less than 1,200 from 2,400 last summer, and energy executives say the drop is accelerating further.

The following graph compares real domestic investment in petroleum and natural gas with real gasoline prices.

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After the oil shock of 1973, oil exploration investment (real dollars) has tracked real gasoline prices pretty closely.

This graph shows oil investment in 2000 dollars. Investment in 2008 was $138 billion in nominal dollars.

The recent rapid decline in gasoline prices suggests investment in petroleum and natural gas exploration and wells could decline by 1/3 or more in 2009 from the $138 billion invested in 2008. This is another area of non-residential structure investment that will decline sharply in 2009 - along with investment in offices, malls and hotels.

Note: Real gasoline prices are annual prior to 1980. The gasoline data is from the EIA.